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	<title>Comments on: Does UX Still Matter In Tough Economic Times</title>
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		<title>By: Anita</title>
		<link>http://dbl.lishost.org/blog/2009/02/19/does-ux-still-matter-in-tough-economic-times/comment-page-1/#comment-28868</link>
		<dc:creator>Anita</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Apr 2009 11:33:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Lets keep it simple. UX matters less in times of recession since its good to have but not a necessity at the moment</description>
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		<title>By: StevenB</title>
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		<dc:creator>StevenB</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Mar 2009 19:29:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for your comment Chris. Good point about Starbucks focusing more on the emotional or psychological design. But your senior citizens at McD example suggests to me that it is the senior citizens themselves that are creating their own experience - as opposed to McD designing a systemic experience for senior citizens. I would be surprised if the crack UX team at McD (if they have one) would design an experience targeted to a population that will come in and buy one cup of coffee (and maybe and egg mcmuffin) and stay for hours and hours talking to their friends (which by the way I have observed at McD - as well as homeless people doing the same at other McD outlets). The McD mission is not to be a hang-out cafe like SB. It&#039;s all about fast food - that&#039;s their primary customer. Get in, get it, get out - fast!

If you want to talk about a designed experience at McD, I&#039;d suggest you look at the other end of the age spectrum. McD has designed a much better experience for children - box meals, playgrounds, toy giveaways - and a place where families on a budget who don&#039;t have much time can eat quickly and cheaply - but not necessarily nutritiously.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for your comment Chris. Good point about Starbucks focusing more on the emotional or psychological design. But your senior citizens at McD example suggests to me that it is the senior citizens themselves that are creating their own experience &#8211; as opposed to McD designing a systemic experience for senior citizens. I would be surprised if the crack UX team at McD (if they have one) would design an experience targeted to a population that will come in and buy one cup of coffee (and maybe and egg mcmuffin) and stay for hours and hours talking to their friends (which by the way I have observed at McD &#8211; as well as homeless people doing the same at other McD outlets). The McD mission is not to be a hang-out cafe like SB. It&#8217;s all about fast food &#8211; that&#8217;s their primary customer. Get in, get it, get out &#8211; fast!</p>
<p>If you want to talk about a designed experience at McD, I&#8217;d suggest you look at the other end of the age spectrum. McD has designed a much better experience for children &#8211; box meals, playgrounds, toy giveaways &#8211; and a place where families on a budget who don&#8217;t have much time can eat quickly and cheaply &#8211; but not necessarily nutritiously.</p>
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		<title>By: Chris Cavallucci</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chris Cavallucci</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Mar 2009 04:52:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think you have confused &#039;user experience&#039; with &#039;customer experience&#039; and forgotten the important semantic differences. In the Starbux v McD&#039;s points, it may be better to think about how small or large the UX may be defined. For example, you could define the McD&#039;s customer&#039;s UX as the stuff related to the person sipping the coffee and all the factors involved in the experience: the liquid temp, the feel of the cup, the flavor, body, aroma, spill-resistant lid, security of the lid, etc.  If the UX is defined in terms of this relatively small moment in time when the user interacts with the product, you can understand how very different it is from a very broadly defined UX. e.g. finding a parking space, browsing, ordering, paying, waiting, prepping, relaxing, exiting, etc.

I tend to think that Starbucks deals a whole lot more with the emotional design of the customer&#039;s experience than McDonalds. 

stevenb - you should hang out in a McD&#039;s for a morning and watch the senior citizens who regularly frequent the establishment. They often have their social networks tied to the McDonalds experience -- meeting for coffee, reading the paper, eating before a walk around the mall. They know the names of the people behind the counter and vice versa. They&#039;re comfortable, sometimes walking up to the counter and saying &quot;I&#039;ll have the usual.&quot;

You must be &#039;off your rocker&#039; if you think UX doesn&#039;t matter as much in tough economic times. I&#039;m glad that you and Picoult think the relevance is even more important given the difficult times. Mark Hurst&#039;s &#039;Bit Literacy&#039; essays might be a good related read for anyone thinking of cutting costs in library systems -- they bring forth the idea of pushing atoms vs pushing bits -- the activities libraries do all the time.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think you have confused &#8216;user experience&#8217; with &#8216;customer experience&#8217; and forgotten the important semantic differences. In the Starbux v McD&#8217;s points, it may be better to think about how small or large the UX may be defined. For example, you could define the McD&#8217;s customer&#8217;s UX as the stuff related to the person sipping the coffee and all the factors involved in the experience: the liquid temp, the feel of the cup, the flavor, body, aroma, spill-resistant lid, security of the lid, etc.  If the UX is defined in terms of this relatively small moment in time when the user interacts with the product, you can understand how very different it is from a very broadly defined UX. e.g. finding a parking space, browsing, ordering, paying, waiting, prepping, relaxing, exiting, etc.</p>
<p>I tend to think that Starbucks deals a whole lot more with the emotional design of the customer&#8217;s experience than McDonalds. </p>
<p>stevenb &#8211; you should hang out in a McD&#8217;s for a morning and watch the senior citizens who regularly frequent the establishment. They often have their social networks tied to the McDonalds experience &#8212; meeting for coffee, reading the paper, eating before a walk around the mall. They know the names of the people behind the counter and vice versa. They&#8217;re comfortable, sometimes walking up to the counter and saying &#8220;I&#8217;ll have the usual.&#8221;</p>
<p>You must be &#8216;off your rocker&#8217; if you think UX doesn&#8217;t matter as much in tough economic times. I&#8217;m glad that you and Picoult think the relevance is even more important given the difficult times. Mark Hurst&#8217;s &#8216;Bit Literacy&#8217; essays might be a good related read for anyone thinking of cutting costs in library systems &#8212; they bring forth the idea of pushing atoms vs pushing bits &#8212; the activities libraries do all the time.</p>
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		<title>By: Putting People First in italiano &#187; L&#8217;UX importa ancora in tempi di difficoltÃ  economica?</title>
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		<dc:creator>Putting People First in italiano &#187; L&#8217;UX importa ancora in tempi di difficoltÃ  economica?</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Mar 2009 11:39:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Samantha LeVan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Samantha LeVan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Feb 2009 18:05:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The risk of saying McDonald&#039;s lacks a &quot;user experience&quot; is the resulting assumption that means anything no or low frills doesn&#039;t deserve user/customer research and I am quite sure McDonald&#039;s invested research dollars on their new coffee branding. Maybe it&#039;s market research but that research created a design that goes beyond the cup. Just looking at their advertising shows that it&#039;s a different experience, not &quot;no experience&quot;.

We may agree to disagree on this one, but I do believe your post is well written and researched. I just don&#039;t agree on the &quot;no experience&quot; part. Minor detail. :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The risk of saying McDonald&#8217;s lacks a &#8220;user experience&#8221; is the resulting assumption that means anything no or low frills doesn&#8217;t deserve user/customer research and I am quite sure McDonald&#8217;s invested research dollars on their new coffee branding. Maybe it&#8217;s market research but that research created a design that goes beyond the cup. Just looking at their advertising shows that it&#8217;s a different experience, not &#8220;no experience&#8221;.</p>
<p>We may agree to disagree on this one, but I do believe your post is well written and researched. I just don&#8217;t agree on the &#8220;no experience&#8221; part. Minor detail. <img src='http://dbl.lishost.org/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: stevenb</title>
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		<dc:creator>stevenb</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Feb 2009 04:09:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve never claimed to be a UX expert - only a student of this field, but based on my understanding of The Experience Economy (book), McDonalds would not be described as a firm with a user experience. Sure, they have a brand and their cups have a certain design, but I would say the key factor is that they lack differentiation. McDonalds is competing primarily on price, not the offering of a unique experience.  Starbucks has competed not on price but on the ambience of their stores, the specialization of the drinks, the quality of the relationships between the employees and customers, etc. Did you ever go into McDonalds for coffee and have the person behind the counter know your name...know your preferred drink...offer to help you get to your car with your drinks...? Of course everything is an experience. By its nature an experience is reacting with the environment.  So yes, technically you could say that McDonalds offers an experience. But is it a user experience as described by folks such as Nathan Shedroff or Peter Merholz? No, I don&#039;t think so.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve never claimed to be a UX expert &#8211; only a student of this field, but based on my understanding of The Experience Economy (book), McDonalds would not be described as a firm with a user experience. Sure, they have a brand and their cups have a certain design, but I would say the key factor is that they lack differentiation. McDonalds is competing primarily on price, not the offering of a unique experience.  Starbucks has competed not on price but on the ambience of their stores, the specialization of the drinks, the quality of the relationships between the employees and customers, etc. Did you ever go into McDonalds for coffee and have the person behind the counter know your name&#8230;know your preferred drink&#8230;offer to help you get to your car with your drinks&#8230;? Of course everything is an experience. By its nature an experience is reacting with the environment.  So yes, technically you could say that McDonalds offers an experience. But is it a user experience as described by folks such as Nathan Shedroff or Peter Merholz? No, I don&#8217;t think so.</p>
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		<title>By: Samantha LeVan</title>
		<link>http://dbl.lishost.org/blog/2009/02/19/does-ux-still-matter-in-tough-economic-times/comment-page-1/#comment-22303</link>
		<dc:creator>Samantha LeVan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Feb 2009 18:42:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s not that Starbucks has a user experience and McDonald&#039;s doesn&#039;t, it&#039;s that they have two different experiences. McDonald&#039;s took an opportunity and researched the current market customer experience and found a hole. Their experience is in providing decent coffee at a low price and they considered cup design, marketing, graphic design, and price as the whole package.

Starbucks&#039; problem wasn&#039;t that they had a &quot;user experience&quot;, it&#039;s that they didn&#039;t continue to research and evolve that experience based on the economy and consumer interest. User experience is necessary regardless of the economy because it is not &quot;frills&quot; vs &quot;no frills&quot;, it is a good experience based on user behavior, interest, desire, and motivation.

It bothers me that there are articles referring to the experience has a &quot;has&quot; or &quot;doesn&#039;t have&quot; situation.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s not that Starbucks has a user experience and McDonald&#8217;s doesn&#8217;t, it&#8217;s that they have two different experiences. McDonald&#8217;s took an opportunity and researched the current market customer experience and found a hole. Their experience is in providing decent coffee at a low price and they considered cup design, marketing, graphic design, and price as the whole package.</p>
<p>Starbucks&#8217; problem wasn&#8217;t that they had a &#8220;user experience&#8221;, it&#8217;s that they didn&#8217;t continue to research and evolve that experience based on the economy and consumer interest. User experience is necessary regardless of the economy because it is not &#8220;frills&#8221; vs &#8220;no frills&#8221;, it is a good experience based on user behavior, interest, desire, and motivation.</p>
<p>It bothers me that there are articles referring to the experience has a &#8220;has&#8221; or &#8220;doesn&#8217;t have&#8221; situation.</p>
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		<title>By: Why User Experience Matters In Tough Economic Times &#124; Usability Counts &#124; User Experience, Social Media</title>
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		<dc:creator>Why User Experience Matters In Tough Economic Times &#124; Usability Counts &#124; User Experience, Social Media</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Feb 2009 18:33:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Putting people first &#187; Does UX still matter in tough economic times</title>
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		<dc:creator>Putting people first &#187; Does UX still matter in tough economic times</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Feb 2009 09:59:11 +0000</pubDate>
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